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Expecting management or owner to care about your health in a blazing hot 100 degree garage is your first mistake, it is one hundred percent your responsibility to prepare yourself for hazardous conditions. Dump ice cubes in your undies. Management does not want to hear complaints from you filthy sweaty lower class meatbag scumdirt techs. Hmm I wonder if roasting boiling all day doing a difficult job for unimpressive pay could be a reason for the tech shortage??

If you can't question it, it's not science.

The industry dug itself a giant hole by giving away too much for free. Free multipoint inspections, free video inspections, free car washes, no charge wiper install. Brake inspection for free after the job was sold. Free A/C inspection. Free code reading. Giving away labor left and right. Policy adjusting work for some one that doesn't come to the dealer ship ever. Warranty times that are impossible. I've seen labor rates going up and up but technician pay hasn't increased. Work conditions aren't the best in most places. Its either very hot or very cold. Do things need to change yes. Will it be over night? No. By leaving your not going to force change new people will just come into the same thing we have been dealing with. Weather the technician shortage gets worse(which I could and most likely will happen) or it improves good techs still need to be around to help promote changes and show others how to improve and carry on making it better. If no one is around to teach then the industry will continue to decline.

What is the best leak detector on the market today?

just quit a job because i thought it was disney world with how much mickey mouse i saw. the other quality tech is leaving too.

Drink ice cold. Frequently Don’t get to a point where you’re overheated I work in a shop now. Retired from UPS package car, 25 years in an environment much hotter than the non- air conditioned shop Drink ice cold water all day. I add MIO electrolytes or typically Kroger or Walmart house brand mio, not the “energy” caffeinated ones. The cooling rags work great. You have a cooler for them. Switch them out when they get warm. Freeze bottles of water to add to your cooler instead of buying bags of ice. Can be refrozen or drunk. I love my M18 fan. I like my Ryobi clip fan Ridgid and Ryobi have hybrid battery fans that any extension cord will plug into which I like better than the M18 adapter, a flimsy cord definitely not made for a work environment. But I have 12 amph batteries to keep it running on high all day. I got the ryobi “misting” fan last year. It’s a decent fan but the misting is a soaking and only good for swimsuit environments, and no 120v option I like a plug in fan for the work bench. But have to have battery one to bring with.

It's so true! It's good that you do. And I thank you for it. There's a reason I went part time in the field. Now I do executive protection for the bulk of my income. I am about to start instructing and I am definitely going to start talking about it to students

The sad part is that the only way I see this happening is to hurt the whole industry where it really matters. (Money)

I will say it. I love the trade I love working on cars. I cant live without benifits, pension or decent wage. I had to leave for an industrial mechanic job. Simple work I disliked but I have whats missing

You should talk about the cdk shutdown

Last drawer the expensiveist drawer!

The industry is going to have to crash before anything ever changes. We are so far behind all other skilled trades.

I prob would put Tekton up with Icon

Hey man I'm glad to see that you're at least willing to call it out because I started my career in construction and I was always told how good of a worker I am and how talented I was at fixing things and then I switched the automotive because the work dried up and got all my ase's and then was constantly told I was the problem because I wanted to be treated like a human being made the mistake of working on a couple of chain shops and they treat you even worse you're just a number to them they'd rather just say screw you and bring in the next guy I quit and went to go do something else and I'm back to being the star worker again and I just can't believe how much other industries will treat you like a human being compared to automotive it's one of the worst trades for how you're being treated I have ever seen and I've worked in multiple different fields at this point I don't know how anyone except the verbal abuse that a lot of people just all it's just just is what it is take a small pay cut just to be treated appreciate all yo& do for the industry

I never sweep anything under the rug !.... I sweep it under the hoist.

The automotive repair and HD diesel industry have been due for unionization for 40 years. It hasnt happened yet because there a billion small pieces competing instead of a few huge names. Maybe we can start with dealerships.

Do my own + 3 yrs at a dealer here, neighborhood chat group blew up Dodge Ram dealer now $200 hr...not sure if any goes to the techs, but it is about customer's will be charged more....until ??

The auto industry has been propping itself up on the backs of mechanics since the Model T rolled off the assembly line, and it won’t change until the last toolbox closes. Say whatever you want out loud, but the culture of seeing us as disposable grease monkeys is too ingrained in the system, and the only thing that’ll change that is if we become more scarce.

All industries are like this not just car business

Get out of the media your a glutton for punishment

Speak loudest by walking away quietly, never to return. For example, let everyone learn how important a properly paid fire department is only after their mega fabulous homes are burnt to ash. An truly dire tech shortage seems like the only way to force a twenty five cent pay raise.

It's a lot easier to change careers, than change an industry that is culturally inclined to screw the rank, and file. Trucks, forklifts, marine, government... They're all paying a living wage, and they're all hiring.

Speak up and you'll be fired or forced out. Dictators don't take orders from peasants. Ford built many unsafe cars that killed people and refused to make changes until after the bodies piled up. Hyundai engine fires, GM ignition switches, Takata airbags, list goes on, greedy bloody claws of profit will never release their grip on this dirty biz

Absolutely 💯 truth Mike. You can’t talk about the good without the bad. The thing is you have to be an adult about it when your toes get stepped on. Whether right or wrong there’s always something to be learned from both aspects. There’s no room for crybabies. All that does is waste time and resources. Lack of management seems to be the biggest problem that I’ve seen. A house without a foundation won’t stand. The toxic circle will continue repeat itself. For some reason the technicians always take the brunt of it and not the owners/management.

Shop owners don't make nearly as much as people think. Some can barely pay their bills.

Flat rate your the man. You speech truth to power. Keep on doing what you're doing.

I was in it 50 yrs. Same problems, different decades. The discussion is good. These problems are in other service industries as well. Not just cars. Some have unions to combat it. Keep it up Mike. You might just make a difference.

5 shops (tire franchise, dealerships, independent) in 5 years, I spoke up about these issues in each shop to managers and fellow techs. I got bullied/starved out of the industry so I'm out till the collapse/reform happens. I left an essay comment on one of Justin Dow's recent vids urging him to collaborate with you on these subjects, he's clearly struggling to find a good shop to work for. I'm not sure he took my comment seriously (he's understandably just trying to make money instead of changing things at the moment). But, I feel you two can maybe change some things with your platforms. Clearly no one wants to listen to a young guy like me. Also, my last boss got angry whenever I played your videos during my lunch, claims you "just don't get it." 🤡🤡

It might change when the technician shortage gets really bad

I call it out every week. I figured it all out though. It’s a cult.

never going to happen! I'm 59 and never saw any change! wasted thirty years doing this! It has to be regulated by the govt like doctors, lawyers and firemen etc. You won't see a substandard fireman trying to save lives or a doctor without a license practicing medicine or a lawyer that couldn't pass the bar exam! so why are there subhumans working on cars?

This is not a one-sided problem.... we have shity owners, we have shity technicians, we have shity trainers, we have shity marketing,..... this industry needs a complete overall..... it is one big glop of s***

People don’t the True. I see other other shop ripped off

I keep saying the business model has to change, it needs to benefit everybody equally. Charging more and Charging appropriately is only going to fix so many issues.

That’s what happens. It takes balls to call out the rot in any industry. Greedy owners want to protect their money. They don’t care about employees. They will justify anything for more money. Good for you 👍

I quit the automotive industry due to shop owners and the treatment of the employees

The industry will never change. Find a new career. Wrench as a side hustle. I've had former customers stop me in the supermarket asking to fix thier cars. You get to pick and chose your customer.

To much lies / empty promises!!!! Go pound sand !!!!

Only individual shops will change, not the entire industry. The ones that give great service at a reasonable rate will make millions. The jackass joints will be no competition. Consumers are getting smarter. Techs that want to deliver are looking at a goldmine.

From my experience in the industry, I've seen a majority of the problems in the industry that people do talk about, like pay or tool cost warranty times, etc. The quiet problems like accountability. But it was pretty difficult to voice the problems towards my employers due to a risk of losing my job. Now, I finally got a position to do so without the fear of losing my lively hood. On the flip side, talking to some other technicians, it kinda difficult to see a good solution or to get a way for shop owners or employers to see the problems

Agree with other posters who say there is no fixing the industry. The choice for each participant in the industry is whether or not they are going to do what they can to fix their individual part of it. Be the fix you look for.

There is no fixing this industry. Requires involvement from to many . There's probably 60 shops in my town most are small 2/3 bay operations also have the mid size shops, the chain stores and then dealers. They are all fighting each other for that $. They don't care about the industry they don't care about retaining technicians. There are lots of fresh immigrants in my area and they will work for 18 an hour. The Quiet part is this industry is to easy to get into. Buy a few tools keep a phone in pocket so can look up videos on how to diag and repair and your a mechanic. Pretty much every other trade Requires training and education and skill. Millwrights can't look up every job youtube. Government doesn't allow a guy who's green , super green to wire a new house but a greenie can change brakes. I don't want to get off into to many aspects here. Problem 1, there are to many "mechanics" and to many shops. Millwrights I know get paid huge and call the shots on the jobs they choose and even time they work.

Because automotive Industry from owners to Technicians don't care about the industry and take pride on what they do all about quick dollar f it on to the next one

True that. Yelp helps customers voice their opinions but it has to be overhauled from the ground up. There are still some good honest repair shops, however their are many only concerned about maximizing profit and padding the pockets of owners/commissioned staff. I would even say it's gotten worse since Covid, many learned bad habits to survive during the lean times and have kept those bad habits in place.

I have so many comments. But I agree. Nothing is changing. There isn’t a technician shortage, there’s a skilled technician shortage. Plenty of bodies out there. This also feeds the dealer vs Indy argument. I know the dealer is about the bottom line, but I make real good money at a dealer. I’ve seen all the Indy shops around me. All have the same were family, we take care of each other blah blah blah. They don’t pay. Sorry that’s a rant.

There is nothing in place to stop auto shops from abusing the flat rate system. The majority of flat rate shops is not setup as a reward system... its a competition system that lets them overhire and restricts people that need to earn the most from earning at all...Why? To just turn the car back to the customer the fastest... and if it ever went before a judge that would be the defense....they serve their customers first.

Beautiful lighting and excellent camera. Flat rate master❌ Focal lens master✅

Wrong im not even using it as a grinder. Light polishing on my truck. On aluminum almost zero resistance. No matter the setting 10 seconds is all you can do 500 i soent today and this dud . Tool 200 the. Batteries 129. Then charger 89. Then a Milwaukee bag to carry everything 130. Then polishing wheels . Full battery shit product

When I quit using the purple stuff I quit warranting brake pads for squeals

Uhhh sir did you just make up your own requirements masters is achieved threw the manufacturer you take tests too achieve it it says your qualified too do the work your doing. manufactures will not pay the tech unless the shop has knowledgeable person working there or several knowledgeable shop competence